At least for now. Like many of the traditional - best - Testors products, this requires thinner and may act like a thinner. most of your questions are answered. Kinda screwy. Edited 1 time (s). To avoid possible wrinkling, recoat withing 3 hours or after 48 hours. Another advantage of this clear coat is that it is very resistant to wear and tear. Do you thin Future, if so with what? Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me..you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! Same acrylic based ones, enamel based ones, and even solvent based ones are surely possible. Fine detail airbrushing requires practice and varies greatly with the equipment and air pressure being used. You should be aware once you mix this clear coat, it should not exceed 48 hours while in the pot before applying it. There is also less chance of "lifting" paint if you use thin coats. About 3 or 4 years ago, I asked Testors about a clear product of theirs, a four bottle set called MM "Custom Enamel System." I have recently tackled a bunch of car building projects while I take my time building my layout room I wanted to make a dent in my rolling stock fleet. I not sure if everyone knows this but the Future product from Johnsons is a natural product. Log In. I know, many people would sayyeah right, and i understand that, but i know all of these facts because i was a profesional painter for about 25 years, in a factory that manufactured paint. Now for the question which one to use, i can not answer that. They're still on the Rustoleum website, along with the same products in 1 oz bottles. Item not available in Hobby Lobby Stores. "Do you thin Future, if so with what? This is a 3 oz. Windscreen wiper fluid is not something I use. No mixing is good You can post now and register later. Thinner: - all acrylic thinners, Metalizer When sealing the buffing colors, use Product Numbers 1409, 1459 or 1261. Enamels require 48-72 hours for a full cure. Don't forget that Future is a floor polish, it's not designed to be airbrushed onto models. I add the "high buck" note with a caution:Over the years, I've had some trouble with using a cheap mineral sprits (paint thinner) with Testers enamels and now stick with their thinner when thinning their paint. Internal Mix airbrushes such as the A320, A430 and A470 are all capable of using the same interchangeable nozzles, but the double-action controls of the A430 and A470 allow you to exploit the finer points of airbrushing. I also use the Alclad flat kote which thins with Testors enamelthinner. These products have a laquer base and must be aplied in light misted coats until you build up the finish you want. Two follow-up questions: 1. Large images may take a few minutes to appear. Please see FAQ 5 for full Model Master Metalizer instructions. When necessary, test decals markings for compatibility prior to placement. At the moment they are mainly Tichy kits and some resin kits to come. Just a little bit of this fluid has enough toxic that it will damage seriously you're health. In particular the dull coat came out more like a satin coat. Mist on applications of the sealer so as not to diminish the reflectance. You can use Glosscote, if this is the enamel version thin slightly with the Testors Airbrush Thinner and spray about 35 PSI. At the moment i have the Alclad clear coats, gloss and mat stand ready to try, but due to my accident i need to wait a further more to try them out. Long answer is proceed with caution. Use this Testors Glosscote Spray Paint over painted surfaces to prevent chipping and to get a smooth glossy finish over flat paint. Using a paper towel or soft brush, carefully dab away excess water. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. 50/50 mix here as well. Explaining Testors clear coats. However, the whole affair has left me a little anxious to the problem, I would like to eliminate the risk altogether, so I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a "safe" gloss coat that can be used over acrylics (I use Tamiya, Vallejo, Lifecolor and am moving away from Gunze because of this). Everybody has to chose for himself which thinning solution to use, but for me, i stick to the manufacturers thinning products or equal.example : Tamiya X20A is simply pure isoprophyl alcohol, so i buy it at a pharmacy which is very cheap. Picture album at :http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dickjubinville If you decide to use this clear coat, it will dry in more or less 12 hours. Create new account. If your URL is correct, you'll see an image preview here. If you have good results with your decals using future, it's just because the Future acts like a glue and fill the microscopic bubbles between the surface and the decal film, so you avoid silvering and improve the adherence of the decal. I do not use acrylics at all, so can't comment there. www.stremy.net. It may be that something else will actually do the job well. Do not to over thin flat Enamels, as they can turn to a gloss if over thinned. Hobby Lobby has it in bottles - mix it 50/50 with lacquer thinner and airbrush it at around 25 psi. I usually use Future for my clearcoats, but of course you can't if you're going to be doing an acrylic wash and scrubbing that off with windex. After it dries, apply decals with setting solution as needed, allow the decals to dry, then paint edges with more Pledge. Whether you liked or disliked the product. It seems to work well either way. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. If your URL is correct, you'll see an image preview here. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. TESTOR . And Tamiya's X-22 is a terrific clear gloss; far superior to floor polish in my opinion, and safe to use over most other paints. Again, make sure the acrylic has cured at least a few days. Not that you were asking about it, but an alternative to Dullcote is to use Testors Model Master Acryl Flat Clear. Scot M. Posted July 21, 2007. Ive used Tamiya X22, but my current favorite is Mission Models Clear Gloss, however I dont know if its available in Austrailia. Spray 3 to 4 light mist coats. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylic_paint. Large images may take a few minutes to appear. Not meant to criticise in any way. If you want to go with water-based stuff, go to a paint store and get a clear flat polyurathane finish in a pint can, It's a lot cheaper, it's very permanent and it thins easily with plain old water (although I use distilled) 10 to 1 for airbrushing. By All of these thinners are relatively mild, but do a great job on these paints - better than any other alternative I've tried. A little Dullcote goes a long way. Dan, I amcurious about the Pledge Floor Gloss. I use Testors Glosscote and Dullcote almost exclusively for my clearcoating of everything but Butyrate Dope topcoats. Flat; 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner, Just I'm risk averse. White leading edges and tail (SWPA scheme) - several years ago I noticed that when I placed a freshly painted (w/white) model, the P-47 had most definately yellowed. For questions or concerns regarding recent orders or product availability, please contact us. I prefer Tamiya X22 clear gloss and have also used Gunze's clear gloss (which is nice but not as durable as Tamiya given my experiences). also works well with Glosscote and Dulcote. I have used both the Testers #1159 thinnerand a lacquer thinner (though top shelf, high buck,stuff)from the local Farm & Fleet with success. #10. applying laquers over acrylics is not recommended, but you can apply acrylics over laquers or laquer over laquer and acrylic over acrylic to be safe, whenever I use Tamiya paints I use Tamiya dull coat the same for testors, try to stick with same brands. It' s a fairly simple explanation, soap is an enemy of paint, because it breaks down some substances that are present in the paint, the most importand is the pigment, that colors the paint. What is your personal experience? I useall three products both Testorsproducts, Tamiya Gloss and Semi. Marcel, I used to thin Tamiya acrylics with windshield washer fluid but found it made it less durable. It is crystal clear in color and designed for use with painted model cars and trucks. In general, use the manufacturer's clear coat. http://www.hectorshardware.biz/shop/product.asp?dept_id=150902&sku=784915&. I generally go for heavier coats, but that is because I usually am going for a heavier gloss. I'm now ready for decals and exploring my options and i'm interested in people experience with them and recommend one or the other. I find that the spray head on the Tamiya cans produces a finer mist than with the old Testors' spray cans. Choose your favorite color of paint (sold separately), allow it to dry completely, then apply this top coat for a beautiful and protected finish. I hope my explanation is clear, because English isn't my mother language. clear polyurethane is readily available. GFollano. I use both Testors gloss and dull cote and use Home Depot LT to thin it about 20% LT and rest Testors stuff. One advantage is that semi-gloss (semi-matt?) Unfortunately i got no experience with Testor's clear coats in order to comment further. The mind is like a parachute. Many people have good results with it, but i think even more people encounter issues with it. ADD TO CART. Apply a fabulously bright color, and apply this overcoat to protect the finish. I have used thinner coats when I wanted a semi-gloss or eggshell. Acrylic would be the best choice in this case. I have used both Krylon Gloss Clear and Flat (Matte) Clear for decaling and/or dulling finishes with great results. For clear coats it will yellow in time because of the negative effect of the soap on, one of the substances, the paste. Moreover it's not a solvent at all. However, the objective is gloss under the decal only so better to brush on the future as one decals ,just a little layer right under the decal,apply the decal to the wet future , then after the decal dries spray some dull coat over the dried decals. This is a good way to use with all sort's of clear coats, and also color coats of different sort's and brands. For the small scales, this is usually faster and easier than setting up an airbrush. I was unable to find directions though. Very very useful product! Jerry. Use full strokes. These products work very well in thinning ourlacquer paints for use in an airbrush. For lacquers and acrylics I'll use the Testors gloss and dull, for MM enamels I'll stick to Micro clear products. I've particularly noticed it with people painted with glossy paint. Auto Lacquers will dry to the touch in minutes; they require 24 hours for a full cure About See All. First i wanna say that i also tried previous the use of Future with my airbrush, but for me, that is a no go. 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