He passed MEPS, signed a contract, and entered Basic Military Training (BMT). It may not display this or other websites correctly. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. . Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. Option 2: Lie. If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Second, you state that the ORs are pushing you to lie. If MEPS already okayed my medical documents, can they go back and try to get more info? LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. Cookie Notice The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Am I in danger like my friend said? Shoulda been a dishonorable. Dont lie. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. Press J to jump to the feed. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. The flap is then placed back into its original position. Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. He. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. What's the deal? After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. Because the military does not. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. Never saw him again. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. One new winner* is announced every week! For questions like "Have you ever had mental health counseling?" We can't definitively know the answer to these hypotheticals, but we do know that the military would have never prepared them for it because they never were evaluated. So what are the lessons from these stories? They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. JavaScript is disabled. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. No personally identifying information (PII). Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. HELP!!!! ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. However, herein lies the problem. How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. He told them. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. There are many specific medical conditions that may disqualify you from joining the U.S. Military. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. If they don't find anything during their examinations, you should be good to go. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles View Gallery Uploads Marine Friend . The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. First, psychiatrists, psychologists, and sometimes doctors might not directly tell their patients their actual diagnoses because of the stigma and fear surrounding Mental Health. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. Thanks for the details. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. Right now, between your profile information and this post, you're what we like to call a "tool bag". KUDOS! They do that at the School of Infantry. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies See Article 83 UCMJ. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. Do you really think your little writeup is going to convince anyone dead set on lying? Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. On the way to Meps we got a call from the Chief who asked us if we had ever been asked to lie, had criminal charges etc. I told him "no" because I did disclose everything with him if asked. If you struggle from any of the conditions mentioned below, it is a good idea to speak with a local U.S. Military recruiter. If the answer is YES, congrats shipmates just got injured or even died on your watch. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. My recruiter sent a 10 page report from the doctor along with the 'Refractive Eye Surgery Checklist' paper my recruiter gave me. Doctors said I had asthma growing up, my recruiter said don't mention it, he was probably jumping to conclusions. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". Recruiter told me to lie . Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. After about 2 months on the medication, he discovered that the side-effects of the medicine were worse than his symptoms and stopped taking it. Did I Lie at MEPS??! It indicates, "Click to perform a search". My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. HELP!!! A magnifying glass. Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. 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