Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. Do they now have 12 round mags? However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. And probably never fired one. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. As soon as I saw the title I knew the Pico would be on the list. A bunch. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check Great little pistol. Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. i cant effectively describe the feel of the action; except to say it was similar to dragging a cinder block up a gravel hill. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. I used to have one. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. Seriously?). Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. Shoot to make the thug dead. These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. Women need to be told about the woman in Birmingham who was being robbed and pulled out a gun. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. It is not made for quick magazine changes. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. Split chassis, cracked frames, split rails, broken take down pins. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). Just keep shooting your pistol. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. . Wrong about sccy. Springfield operator: 5.2 OMG! And surely have not shot one or very little. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. No problems when used within its limits. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. I love this gun for the price, and just because its not made by Glock means nothing to me. No issues to complain about. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. I like the concept at least. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. If its good Ill spread the word. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. They know media though. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. He paid people to review his book on Amazon. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. No thanks. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. The thing stinks. Do not yank the magazine friends. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. He says it is a blunder. CM40 is my summe4 carry. I know one person who had a nightmare of an experience with the Diamondback ..380. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. Nicer than the price would indicate. Yes it did. How is this journalisim? The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. Plus, the Picos 9mm cousin, the Nano, rates well above average. I normally enjoy Truth about guns. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. The LCP isnt that bad. I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). Wouldnt take much time for an employee or contractor of one of these manufacturers to buff up the ratings, or down rate a competitor. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. Really disappointed in how this was presented. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . capacity. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. Snicker. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. Its tight, even well after break-in. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. My advice. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. What utter nonsense! YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. Also LCP. The trigger is long and has some over travel but its very smooth. You sound smart. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) Go to Genitron and compare.And very little muzzle flip. How many times are there accidental discharges from soft triggers? The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. As in best gun LOL. I own a SCCY CPX-2 personally and it has been a flawless gun. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. I like mine. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. These arent big enough vote pools anyway. I bought it because the idea of 10+1 rounds in 9mm was very appealing. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Only time I tried one I did not like it. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. Take down the Pico. And for sure never shot one. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Thats a lot! Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. I certainly wouldnt be happy. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. They never protected their early designs/. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a The mag will spring out when done correctly. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. Or did all those voters fly to Russia to test them out? Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. Too many women wind up dropping the gun which the thug grabs and then uses on the woman. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. I. So special, they ride the short bus. I doubt he even read the directions. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). This gun is selling better than ever years later. No aluminum. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. The double 1911 also has ratings. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the Like a great car or movie, a great firearm can become a true classic. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. Had it for about 6 months now and been to the range several times. Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. Probably ran 150 round through it so far. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. CPX 2. I would have bet the farm that the Ruger LCP was the worst small pistol ever created. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Anyway, all just my opinion here. 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