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(END VIDEO CLIP) GUPTA: Time to introduce Dr. Valerie Montgomery Rice, she's Dean at the Morehouse school of medicine. Seventy-three seconds into the 28 January 1986 . Probably put him on the bottom on the other side. We pay doctors to see patients, so they see a lot of patients. We tend to just see the light of healthcare, we see the goodness of health care, the potential for helping. So inhale. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's not -- yes. Viewers will see this language when they . And doctors wanting to please their patients will often prescribe it. Look. Delhi Building Collapse Video: 100 , When you start to look at kids 15 to 19, we know accidents and again violence. But it's more than cost. ROSS: If you had to? Impressive. But one evening, I sat straight up in bed with the worst chest pain. It doesn't reward them for doing a better job. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just want to see what they've given him. It's your money. It just doesn't work out financially. 1. s03e01 - Fire Escape Tran script. These lifestyle changes cannot only work as well as drugs and surgery, but often even better at a fraction of the cost and the only side effects are good ones. And to me, that's not the only issue. Because they're not using health care now. BERWICK: It's really easy to find articles or speeches 30 years ago in which leaders were calling for change, unsustainable costs, problems and outcomes in quality. When you're in the inner circle of the health insurance company, what's most important is meeting Wall Street's expectations. If I burn the fuel around me, then when the fire comes and it takes me, I'm safe. Rescue care is second to none. And how do we shift this huge enterprise of disease intervention in that direction. It used to be me. Is that a fair message? Let me distinguish two terms. We have a model that works simply by making changes in diet and lifestyles. GUPTA: Erin, what did you think about that particular theme? TUCKSON: Primary care doctors are being cared more. We are more likely to get a knee replacement or have a cat scanner, have an MRI. It has to do with expectations of patients. NISSEN: We're not saying that people are doing these procedures for profit. When medicine became a business, we lost our moral compass. He is the president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. You know? ESCAPE FIRE tackles one of the most pressing issues of our time: what can be done to save our broken medical system? We need a whole new kind of medicine. But we end up being this revolving door. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. People go in and out of health plans. It's the best treatment and it saves lives, period. Things could move in that direction here, and this is not the choice of the doctor. People with chronic disease who come in and out of hospitals, bouncing in and out of ERs, that's what they need, someone to really take an interest. And my doctor told him he wouldn't recommend taking me because he didn't think I would live the year. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. There were even times, honestly, that I looked in the mirror and said, how did you get here? DAN BULLIS, WALTER REED ARMY MEDICAL CENTER, DEPLOYMENT HEALTH CENTER: Post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD, is an individual's reaction to the exposure and experiences of war. PROTESTERS: Healthcare. There's the cost of covering people who simply don't have insurance or can't pay. So, less than 30 percent are actually done in these people with stable ischemic heart disease. BROWNLEE: We have a disease care system, and we have a very profitable disease care system. ROBERTSON: Conventional wisdom is, over the next two years, we will likely go out of business. It was a passion for healing. GUPTA: I want to point out something. DR. WAYNE JONAS, PRESIDENT, SAMUELI INSTITUTE, MILITARY MEDICAL RESEARCH: With 10 years of ongoing wars, the amount of suffering that's going on in the military right now is tremendous. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do it again on Friday. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Exhale. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did he try to get up without anybody knowing? They may be a member of a health plan for a year and maybe no longer. They didn't want to have a new competitor. LT. GEN. DAVID FRIDOVICH, THREE STAR COMMANDER, U.S. SPECIAL FORCES: I can see why there's a link between opiates, dependency, misuse, and suicide. 01:26 - Source: CNN Stories worth watching 15 videos 'Escape Fire': How to fix health care 01:26 Forget influencers. To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. It rewards them for delivering more care. Now, thanks to both of you for joining us. YATES: OK. Some would say overrewarded specialty and subspecialties. She ended up having another open heart operation, another bypass operation. And so, that's clearly one of the issues. Do you understand? THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. We have a disease management system. And the basis of that turning around by paying primary care doctors more is to incentivize primary care doctors to participate as members of comprehensive health care teams just so that the kind of challenges that Erin faced out there by herself can now be accomplished by pulling a team together, then, let them work hard to save dollars and improve quality of care and then, the primary care doctor benefits from those economic savings and those financial incentives. I think there's some very good drugs out there, I think drug treatment has its place. 4:00 Minute Teaser Video UPDATE: "In 2010, the US spent $2.5 trillion on healthcare." But now (in 2018) we are spending $3.65 trillion/year. ROBERTSON: It's a financial necessity. All right? MARTIN: Uh-huh. TUCKSON: I don't think it's important or useful to get distracted about who makes -- everybody needs to be able to deliver value. I'm not sure every country in the world does it perfectly. Credit: Battlestate Games. Meditation takes the place of that. DR. VALERIE MONTGOMERY RICE, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, DEAN, MOREHOUSE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE: I think it comes down to three things. GUPTA: Can you actually get a-hold of those people? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was, what, a month and a half ago? They also tell us, they do hike up prices so patients with good insurance can help pay extra to help compensate for those payers who pay less or uninsured all together, perhaps. It is just tragic to think of the answer being there but just in the -- in the moment not able to see it. Let's be honest. Frankly, be suspicious of doctors who recommend one and frankly, think that they're just trying to make money off of me. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So right now the only way we have to make up the difference is basically to see more people. The next 30 minutes are all about you, the patient, whether you're insured or not insured, it matters. The answers among us, and only by accepting the fact that the American healthcare system is badly broken and the status quo isn't working, is bankrupting our nation, will we be able to seek out the escape fires, the potential solutions, and create a sustainable and patient centered system for the future. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you want to do a pill count with me? They'll say, it took years to develop something like this, the research and development costs are significant. Got to push through it. A lot of unnecessary stents? Eight IEDs through this deployment. This isn't a game of this person against that group, this sector against that sector, but at the end of the day, the American people need solutions and the one thing they don't need is a bunch of finger pointing that doesn't take us forward. May everyone be well. Let me get right to it, Erin. Here you go. Your arteries around the heart. And they have a hard time believing that these simple choices that we make in our lives each day can make such a powerful difference. The Escape fire Video demonstrates human stories and leaders in the fight to transform Medicare at the level of medicine, the US military, industry, and government. ROSS: All right. BERWICK: The healthcare system isn't affordable anymore. Everybody is doing their job, we just design the jobs wrong. BURD: Yes. Also, Nancy Davenport- Ennis, she heads the patient advocate foundation. That was how many medications I was on. The balloon is inflated to widen the blocked areas. We have made all of this unhealthy food the cheapest and most available food. It's an expensive world to live in in terms of getting your voice heard in D.C., but that's the whole function of advocacy. Only thing we can do is separate them out, because there's no way for us to tell which are which. If somebody has an infection, we give anti-infectious agents. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are the costs of all of our drugs in order. Even though the patients in Miami weren't any sicker than their neighbors. My very best friend from war, he was on narcotics. They become more productive. This is Prazosin. MARTIN: How are you today? WENDELL POTTER, FORMER HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS, CIGNA: I don't recall any time telling a lie, but I know that there are many times that I didn't disclose full information, and I was the company's chief spokesman. Thank you so much. NISSEN: Yes, but we have to educate patients. Alice in Wonderland (1951)/Transcript. Did you have a good day today? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) SHANNON BROWNLEE, MEDICAL JOURNALIST: Dark matter is a discovery by astronomers that there is a huge amount of the universe that we can't see. In fact, more soldiers died last year from non-combat injuries than during war. We just have to keep working towards that. MARTIN: That's a little -- might be a little bit of a culture shift, too, for the patients. Insurance companies have always been able to regulate the rates they charge. MARSHALL: You and I both know, it's hard to change the habits of a lifestyle. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People often think it has to be a new drug or a new laser or something really high-tech and expensive for it to be powerful. Aladdin (2019)/Transcript. You've seen a lot. Healthcare, it's in really bad trouble. SHANNON BROWNLEE, MEDICAL JOURNALIST: How powerful are lobbyists in the healthcare system? Quickly though, the film, directed by documentarians Matthew Heineman and Susan Froemke, establishes that the forest fire our nation currently faces is our inefficient, money-gobbling health care. If they are confirmed non-smoker, we give them a discount. You're two or three times as likely to get a heart catheterization or have a stent in your coronaries. How long were you there? MARTIN: Bye. To get the best results, use these formatting tips: To force the start of a new caption . I'm sorry, it's going to get pretty tight. Wag Dodge survived, nearly unharmed, in his escape fire. RICHARD UMBDENSTOCK, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION: I was almost as surprised as anybody to see the reports that I was the most frequent visitor to the White House during the health reform debate. I have an acutely suicidal patient in my office that I need help with. About a 30 percent increase in the risk of heart attack and related complications. A stapler, this stapler that is often to used in surgery, like this? We pay hospitals to be full, so they try to be full. UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A new study finds a growing number of combat veterans are battling mental illness, but many are finding it difficult to get the help they need. It's not whole food as nature produces it. Then all of a sudden I started getting chest pains. When I'm running and it's a hot day and I feel like giving up, it never fails. They are patients with heart failure, they are morbidly obese patients. All Dogs Go to Heaven/Transcript. Select "Show Transcript" from the menu. ORNISH: Dr. Peter Carroll and I collaborated with Dr. Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the Nobel Prize in medicine and she had done a study showing that stress creates shorter telomere, said as your telomeres get shorter, your life gets shorter. As Berwick says in the film, "We're in Mann Gulch. BROWNLEE: Fee for service rewards physicians for doing more. more . . MARTIN: Wow. Escape Fire Background.The video essay Escape Fire (2012) was heralded as a breakthrough in the understanding of and . Can adding Avandia help you? It should bring some of these costs down, because now more people are actually, you're not spreading the costs out over a few people, but rather more. There are certain patients that are very motivated to say how do I go back and recapture the wellness I used to enjoyed? MARTIN: It was a dire situation and there are many times that myself and my colleagues would have the conversation of, you know, we are going to miss something, this could be really bad, and actually having the fear that this was going to be harmful to our patients at some point. This is incentives the system so that patient have a less specifically to be of picking the right choice. They didn't foresee me ever trying to walk yet. . UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I quit drinking, too. And some people even that are getting stents don't have symptoms. We're the only providers for. The documents are coming out in these court suits, it looks worse and worse. We say they don't prevent heart attacks, they don't lengthen life. I'm really, really pleased. So, you compare us to those other nations, you have to understand that we come to the table with the bigger burden of disease. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was OK. Kind of gave me more idea on what to eat. YATES: I meditate, and it has opened up a whole new world for me. 2. GUPTA: But, why are these causing hospitals so expensive? Is that how you get paid? I'll look up and I'll see a person who's overweight across the street. It's OK. You're good, you're good. There's a contradiction to what we do. Cost about $1200. We need to change the nature of medicine. What do you think? If you have that happen in Germany or England, they say, here's a list of instructions, if you have problems come back and see us. You can't have a cafeteria that doesn't have calorie counts on it. Yes, this is Dr. Martin over at La Clinica. Our forefathers in medicine were really about patients. Aliens in the Attic/Transcript. An estimated 600,000 stent procedures are performed every year in the United States. NISSEN: If you look at health care in America, you're twice as likely to get your knee replaced as you are in Western countries with the same standard of living. Everybody agrees on that. I would probably leave healthcare before I went back to practicing the way I practiced last year. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to leave these in for about five, seven minutes. WENDELL POTTER, FORMER HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS, CIGNA: There's the assumption that people who run government, elected officials, members of Congress, but it's not true in many cases. There's saving money and there's cost effective. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good, how have you been? I could hardly just about walk three steps and I'd have to stop and rest. OSBORNE: I am great. Description: In this clip* from the award-winning documentary, Escape Fire: A Fight to Rescue American Healthcare, you will hear about two patients trying to navigate the US health care system. And if you try and buck the system, someone says, what can we do to get your productivity up? Seventy percent of all the deaths in diabetes are heart disease. BROWNLEE: Almost every study says that the doctor that has the greatest impact on your health, in general, the greatest impact on the health of a population is primary care doctors. About 70 percent of all angioplasty and stent procedures in this country are done in people actively having heart attacks, large heart attacks or smaller heart attacks or having what we call unstable angina. It sounded like it was so bad that you basically had to leave your practice. that is going to raise cause. If you look at a hospital bill, you might see an IV bag charge. He tried to get the other smoke jumpers to join him, and nobody did. And it will not protect you from having a heart attack. It doesn't matter how complicated they are, how much time that we spend on them, it's just a number, one, two, three, four, five. You are going to hear from many different voices with varying opinions and backgrounds tonight. DR. PETER CARROLL, CHAIR, DEPARTMENT OF UROLOGY, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO: My path crossed with Dean's because we both wanted to bring rigorous clinical trial testing to this hypothesis that lifestyle intervention could have a impact on men with early stage prostate cancer. GUPTA: United health care makes a lot of money. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We moved you over here. All right. At a time when the medical system is so badly broken. I became a doctor because I care about patients and working here, I can't help them. They are going to healthcare. Aladdin and the King of Thieves/Transcript. The medication depresses you, it makes you think that it's all you're ever going to be in. I say, radical? MARTIN: OK? It's still not over, but it's better from Germany, I promise you that. I took care of them and I was responsible for them and just worrying about if somebody else is going to do for them what they need. I think many of her cardiac catheterizations instead would not have been necessary. She had bypass surgery in her 30, 27 cardiac cauterization and well over seven stents before she went to the Cleveland clinic for treatment. It's a completely irrational system. Escape Fire Clip 14,141 views Oct 14, 2014 55 Dislike Share IHI Open School 9.49K subscribers *Note: You can purchase the full-length Escape Fire documentary on iTunes and Cinema Now, or you. It's about saving the health of a nation. BERWICK: Everybody is doing what makes sense to them individually. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Haven't gotten near my toes in months unless I do this. MARTIN: I bill $213, let's say for a 45 minute face to face visit with a patient. What that means is, the money we spend on prevention improves our health greatly per dollar spent. GUPTA: Are you optimistic about the future when it am could to family care, and when it comes to our health care overall? GUPTA: So it doesn't matter. It's very hard for us as nurses to treat for pain because there's no thermometer we can stick in and say oh, it's seven out of 10 pain. Did you go to the diabetes education? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was issued the bottle today with 20 in it and 10 are missing. I was head of corporate communications, which means I was the top public relations officer for the company. NIEMTZOW: If you didn't have the acupuncture needles, how do you think you'd be feeling? UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Did you have, you know, a lot of money at stake here? You know? So that's rewarding for me. DR. JEFFREY MARSHALL, PRESIDENT, FOR INTERVENTIONAL AND GEOGRAPHY IN INTERVENTION: I don't believe so. CARNES: Notice where you are in the room, the people around. He's like really not listening very well. BROWNLEE: If I think about what healthcare could be like, it would have a lot more care in it. Type the text of what was said in your video and save it as a plain text file (.txt). I imagine the other smoke jumpers thought the guy was crazy, but his idea was this. Even when bad things happen, it's not because people have bad intentions, it's that our system is all fouled up. Determine, did you indeed have two MRI's during the course of one week? NANCY DAVENPORT-ENNIS, FOUNDER, CEO, PATIENT ADVOCATE FOUNDATION: So, what we tell them first and foremost, is get a copy of the entire bill and look for redundancies. And then, being paid, on top of that, a bonus if they can demonstrate, if they have improve the quality of care and have also may cause saving. Thank you all. And chromosomes have all genetic information on them. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, I'm only 34 years old. DR. ELIZABETH BLACKBURN, NOBEL PRIZE IN MEDICINE, 2009, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO: Telomere are the ends of chromosomes. Mountains of Afghanistan are not easy to climb, so pain in my back. NISSEN: When I watch the networks, half the ads are for pharmaceutical agents. Let me just take a listen to you. I think that's an important point. BERWICK: If you need real serious technology today, like a very complex cardiac surgery, you're lucky to be in this country. But, you know, we have the means to decrease disease. This is a lot worse. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You need to get up and pee? Until my doctor said to me, I don't know what else to do for you. So, if you have a patient comes in, you get paid a certain amount because you do a stent. We have some challenges with access and affordability. Underrewarded primary care. May everyone be happy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel different. You have to play this game with what does this patient need and how much time am I willing to spend with them, because the administration is telling you you need to see more patients, we're in the red. Next, click the three-dot menu icon underneath the title of the video. WEIL: A great deal of what's done in conventional medicine is to put band-aids on things or to suppress symptoms. That's built in these costs as well. ROBERT YATES, INFANTRY, U.S. ARMY: Medications I was on. Thanks all of you for joining us. BERWICK: It's so frustrating to know how high the risks are and how easy the answers are. There are answers, we know what safe care looks like. GUPTA: And I want to leave all of you at home with a thought as well. (COMMERCIAL BREAK). SGT. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: In the last few years, a profound change has begun in American medicine. 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